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on most pbs stations, check your local listing. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. ray? >> suarez: and that's the newshour for tonight. on tuesday, we'll talk to gloria steinem, and look at the arguments before the supreme court over the collection of d.n.a. evidence. arufoodrsuf:ez. w>>anufdrdf: and i'm judy woodruff. we'll see you online, and again here tomorrow evening. thank you, and good night. f: >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> bnsf railway. >> macarthur foundation. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org vo:geico, committed to providing service to its auto insurance customers for over 70 years. more information on auto insurance at geico.com or 1-800-947-auto any time of the day or
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our coverage is part of pbs's "ater newtown" initiative, a series of programs produced by our pbs colleagues to spark a national conversation about gun violence in america. on our web site now, find a preview of some of the stories we'll be reporting. >> woodruff: and to the analysis of shields and gerson-- syndicated columnist mark shields and "washington post" columnist michael gerson. david brooks is away this week. welce, gentleman. so pkingupmar, on what we just heard lynn sweet telling margaret about what the president was saying today going to chicago, his hometown, how effective is it for him to be going before big audiences on this very political question of gun control? >> i think that it was certainly the highlight emotionally of the state of the union speech. i think it connected to people in that room and beyond that roomment i think can only be helpful. >> woodruff: does it seem, michael, that his chances are improving because every time he goes out and makes a speech like this? >> well, i think he has one advantage on this issue which is what he is proposing, a vote on these t
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and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> suarez: there may be hope yet for bringing the national epidemic of obesity under control. at least, the latest numbers on calories and fast food, released today, indicated possible progress. for years, health officials have warned about americans' growing girth. now, research from the centers for disease control and prevention suggests the fight against fat may be having an effect. among the findings: american children consumed fewer calories in 2010 than a decade before-- 7% less for boys and 4% less for girls. and for adults, fast food accounted for just over 11% of the calories consumed in 2010, down from nearly 13% in 2006. the researchers acknowledge the changes are small and can't be fully explained. but public campaigns against obesity have intensified in recent years. last september, for instance, new york city's board of health limited sugared drinks and sodas to 16 ounces or less. mayor michael bloomberg praised the prohibition that takes effect march 12th. >>
and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> suarez: there may be hope yet for bringing the national epidemic of obesity under control. at least, the latest numbers on calories and fast food, released today, indicated possible progress. for years, health officials have warned about americans' growing girth. now, research from the centers for disease control and prevention suggests the fight against fat may be having an effect. among the findings: american...
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and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> suarez: with just a week left before automatic spending cuts are set to begin, the obama administration stepped up pressure on republicans in congress today. the latest warnings came over the potential impact that furloughs would have on air trav, starng in apl. transportation secretary ray lahood said travelers could face new delays of 90 minutes at major airports in chicago, new york and san francisco. more than 100 air control towers at smaller airports could be closed, lahood said. airlines likely would cancel flights. and congress, he said, would hear of the fallout. >> it's not only the impact on the passengers, it's the impact that it has on airports, control towers, people who work there, airports. and their ones are going to start ringing. why does this have to happen? nobody likes a delay. nobody likes waiting in line. none of us do. if we can't get our hamburger within five minutes, if we can't get on the plane whin 30, 40, 50 minutes after going through, you
and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> suarez: with just a week left before automatic spending cuts are set to begin, the obama administration stepped up pressure on republicans in congress today. the latest warnings came over the potential impact that furloughs would have on air trav, starng in apl. transportation secretary ray lahood said travelers could face new delays of 90 minutes at major airports in chicago, new york and san francisco. more...
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eastern time tonight on most pbs stations. also tonight on pbs, "guns in america" explores the country's enduring relationship with firearms, beginning with the first european settlers to present day. check your local listings. and on our web site, we examine the gun depicted in art, from movies like "dirty harry" to paintings and photographs.ki find a narrated slideshow on art beat. >> ifill: we return now to south africa, where double amputee olympian oscar pistorius appeared in court today, and the family of girlfriend reeva steenkamp gathered for her funeral. >> reporter: his father, as he listened to the charges against him that he shot his girlfriend dead in an act of premeditated murder he sobbed. exactly what happened in his high security gated home late on the night of st. valentine last week did oscar pistorius kill his girlfriend reeva steenkamp? yes, his lawyer would concede. but he argued that was mistake. the explanation came by way of a prepared statement read to the court by his lawyer. pistorius claims the cou
eastern time tonight on most pbs stations. also tonight on pbs, "guns in america" explores the country's enduring relationship with firearms, beginning with the first european settlers to present day. check your local listings. and on our web site, we examine the gun depicted in art, from movies like "dirty harry" to paintings and photographs.ki find a narrated slideshow on art beat. >> ifill: we return now to south africa, where double amputee olympian oscar pistorius...
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and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: fresh from addressing the nation, president obama opened a new campaign today to sell his second-term economic plan. in turn, republicans dismissed most of his ideas as the failed policies of the past. the president flew south today, going directly to voters with his ideas for creating jobs and boosting the middle class. the post state of the union tour began in asheville, north carolina, at a plant that makes heavy-duty engines. he picked up where he had left off with his message the night before. >> our job as americans is to restore that basic bargain that says if you work hard, if you're willing to meet your responsibilities, you can get ahead. ( applause ) you can get ahead. doesn't matter what you look like, doesn't matter where you come from. r mile class, en it's growing, whent's thriving, when there are ladders of opportunity for people to do a little bit better each year and make sure that their kids are doing even better than them, that's the america
and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: fresh from addressing the nation, president obama opened a new campaign today to sell his second-term economic plan. in turn, republicans dismissed most of his ideas as the failed policies of the past. the president flew south today, going directly to voters with his ideas for creating jobs and boosting the middle class. the post state of the union tour began in asheville, north carolina, at a plant...
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and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brown: the u.s. postal service announced today it plans to end saturday mail delivery beginning in august. under the plan, post offices already open on saturdays will remain so. packages will also continue to be delivered on saturdays. but home and business mail would end. the move would save an estimated $2 billion annually. the postal service ended the last budget year with a record loss, nearly $16 billion. today's decision was criticized by several members of congress who may try to overule the agency. and the head of the letter carrier's union called the move "a disastrous idea that would have a profoundly negative effect." joining us now is postmaster general patrick donohoe. and welcome to you. you spoke today being in a "very scary position financially." how scary? >> well, here's where we are right flow. now. as you mentioned we had a pretty substantial loss last year and those were accounting losses. $11.1 billion of the $15.9 is attributed to prepayment for re
and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brown: the u.s. postal service announced today it plans to end saturday mail delivery beginning in august. under the plan, post offices already open on saturdays will remain so. packages will also continue to be delivered on saturdays. but home and business mail would end. the move would save an estimated $2 billion annually. the postal service ended the last budget year with a record loss, nearly $16 billion....
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and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brown: the u.s. postal service announced today it plans to end saturday mail delivery beginning in august. under the plan, post offices already open on saturdays will remain so. packages will also continue to be delivered on saturdays. but home and business mail would end. the move would save an estimated $2 billion annually. the postal service ended the last budget year with a record loss, nearly $16 billion. today's decision was criticized by several members of congress who may try to overule the agency. and the head of the letter carrier's union called the move "a disastrous idea that would have a profoundly negative effect." joining us now is postmaster general patrick donohoe. and welcome to you. you spoke today being in a "very scary position financially." how scary? >> well, here's where we are right flow. now. as you mentioned we had a pretty substantial loss last year and those were accounting losses. $11.1 billion of the $15.9 is attributed to prepayment for retiree healt
and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brown: the u.s. postal service announced today it plans to end saturday mail delivery beginning in august. under the plan, post offices already open on saturdays will remain so. packages will also continue to be delivered on saturdays. but home and business mail would end. the move would save an estimated $2 billion annually. the postal service ended the last budget year with a record loss, nearly $16 billion....
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and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brown: for the second time in five months, a u.s. diplomatic post has been the target of a deadly assault. a suicide bomber detonated a vest with explosives outside the u.s. embassy in ankara, turkey, today, killing himself and a security guard. the white house described it as a terrorist attack. the explosion occurred around 1:15 p.m. local time. afterward, police tried to hold back the crowd gathered outside the u.s. facility in the turkish capital. debris littered the street near a side entrance where the blast took place. emergency workers wheeled one of the injured into an awaiting ambulance. u.s. ambassador to turkey francis ricciardone spoke to reporters outside the embassy. >> right now, we are all dealing with our sadness at the loss of our fellow member of our embassy. we salute his bravery, his service to turkey and to turkish-american friendship. our hearts go out to his family. >> brown: in istanbul, prime minister recep tayyip erdogan called the bombing an
and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brown: for the second time in five months, a u.s. diplomatic post has been the target of a deadly assault. a suicide bomber detonated a vest with explosives outside the u.s. embassy in ankara, turkey, today, killing himself and a security guard. the white house described it as a terrorist attack. the explosion occurred around 1:15 p.m. local time. afterward, police tried to hold back the crowd gathered outside...
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and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brown: for the second time in five months, a u.s. diplomatic post has been the target of a deadly assault. a suicide bomber detonated a vest with explosives outside the u.s. embassy in ankara, turkey, today, killing himself and a security guard. the white house described it as a terrorist attack. th explosion occurred around 1:15 p.m. local time. afterward, police tried to hold back the crowd gathered outside the u.s. facility in the turkish capital. debris littered the street near a side entrance where the blast took place. emergency workers wheeled one of the injured into an awaiting ambulance. u.s. ambassador to turkey francis ricciardone spoke to reporters outside the embassy. >> right now, we are all dealing with our sadness at the loss of our fellow member of our embassy. we salute his bravery, his service to turkey and to turkish-american friendship. our hearts go out to his family. >> brown: in istanbul, prime minister recep tayyip erdogan called the bombing an "
and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brown: for the second time in five months, a u.s. diplomatic post has been the target of a deadly assault. a suicide bomber detonated a vest with explosives outside the u.s. embassy in ankara, turkey, today, killing himself and a security guard. the white house described it as a terrorist attack. th explosion occurred around 1:15 p.m. local time. afterward, police tried to hold back the crowd gathered outside...
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through education. adcasting, dedicated to strengthening america's future and contributions to your pbs station, from viewers like you. the neighbourhood ♪ and contributions to your pbs station, ♪ a beautiful day for a neighbour ♪ ♪ would you be mine? ♪ could you be mine? ♪ won't you be my neighbour? - ♪ it's daniel tiger's neighborhood ♪ ♪ a land of make-believe ♪ won't you ride along with me? ♪ - ♪ ride along - ♪ it's daniel tiger's neighborhood ♪ ♪ so much to do, so much to see ♪ ♪ won't you ride along with me? ♪ - ♪ ride along - ♪ i've got lots of friends for you to meet ♪ ♪ in this land of make-believe ♪ a friendly face on every street ♪ just waiting to greet you ♪ it's a beautiful day in the neighbourhood ♪ ♪ a beautiful day for a neighbour ♪ ♪ in daniel tiger's neighborhood! ♪ (trolley dings.) - hi neighbour! it's me, daniel tiger. come on in! do you know what today is? it's my birthday! look! i'm gonna have a birthday party! see? hey, do you like birthday parties? - ugga mugga, birthday tiger. it's time to go to the bak
through education. adcasting, dedicated to strengthening america's future and contributions to your pbs station, from viewers like you. the neighbourhood ♪ and contributions to your pbs station, ♪ a beautiful day for a neighbour ♪ ♪ would you be mine? ♪ could you be mine? ♪ won't you be my neighbour? - ♪ it's daniel tiger's neighborhood ♪ ♪ a land of make-believe ♪ won't you ride along with me? ♪ - ♪ ride along - ♪ it's daniel tiger's neighborhood ♪ ♪ so much to...
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station, from viewers like you. rhood ♪ and contributions to your pbs station, ♪ a beautiful day for a neighbor ♪ ♪ would you be mine? could you be mine? ♪ ♪ won't you be my neighbor? - ♪ it's daniel tiger's neighborhood ♪ ♪ a land of make-believe ♪ won't you ride along with me? ♪ - ♪ ride along - ♪ it's daniel tiger's neighborhood ♪ ♪ so much to do, so much to see ♪ ♪ won't you ride along with me? ♪ - ♪ ride along - ♪ i've got lots of friends for you to meet ♪ ♪ in this land of make-believe ♪ a friendly face on every street ♪ ♪ just waiting to greet you ♪ it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood ♪ ♪ a beautiful day for a neighbor ♪ ♪ in daniel tiger's neighborhood ♪ - hi, neighbor! it's me, daniel tiger. i've been waiting to play a game with you! come on in! ok, guess what i hid under my blanket. you can ride on it, it's red, it says, "ding! ding!" can you guess what it is? it's trolley! (trolley dings.) this one's my toy trolley, but i love trolley! ding! ding! hop on board, tigey! let's go for a ride! you say, "ding! ding!"
station, from viewers like you. rhood ♪ and contributions to your pbs station, ♪ a beautiful day for a neighbor ♪ ♪ would you be mine? could you be mine? ♪ ♪ won't you be my neighbor? - ♪ it's daniel tiger's neighborhood ♪ ♪ a land of make-believe ♪ won't you ride along with me? ♪ - ♪ ride along - ♪ it's daniel tiger's neighborhood ♪ ♪ so much to do, so much to see ♪ ♪ won't you ride along with me? ♪ - ♪ ride along - ♪ i've got lots of friends for you to...
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he takes out his bag lunching mouthfuls of apple juice and pb and j. on his watchdog garts. diners are darkened, empty much we are not open for you, moon they seem to say. and so said the cart vendors the waitresses like mabel and maureen. how mabel and lauereen stroll indeed full skirted prichled merrily the moon lit evening arms in other men's arms. this next one is, the next 2, which are my last 2 are something about passing. among us. in the sunken spring as in winter and fall and every season that our teak of spring with souro and jubulation are fragile hearts are as children grabbing drink tumblers spilld and milky. teach finger tips reaches for the stars and night clouds hopeful that we might give respite to our orbegans our earth bound regrets. we ask or wonder in the moments when we catch ourselves breathing where do the beloved go. in the warm cham bers of the living. we imagine how they might wallow away our earthly number of days playing gin rummy with another grand mother. ladies of historical footnotes. telescope the heavens on capurncus's shirt tales. wounds a
he takes out his bag lunching mouthfuls of apple juice and pb and j. on his watchdog garts. diners are darkened, empty much we are not open for you, moon they seem to say. and so said the cart vendors the waitresses like mabel and maureen. how mabel and lauereen stroll indeed full skirted prichled merrily the moon lit evening arms in other men's arms. this next one is, the next 2, which are my last 2 are something about passing. among us. in the sunken spring as in winter and fall and every...
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tonight begins a weeklong focus on guns here on pbs, "after newtown." on the newshour this evening, we look at political and other developments since the december tragedy and zero in on the gun debate in colorado. >> in the divisive atmosphere of the gun debate, both sides, at the federal and state level, say they know the coming months won't be easy. but they will be critical. >> ifill: then, we take up the arguments for and against the proposed construction of the keystone pipeline, as environmental activists mounted a protest this weekend. >> woodurff: ray suarez updates the hugo chavez story, after the president's surprise return to venezuela following more than two months of cancer treatment in cuba. >> ifill: and jeffrey brown talks with filmmaker kirby dick about his oscar-nominated documentary "the invisible war," detailing the high rate of sexual assault in the u.s. military. >> 86% of men and women who are sexually assaulted in the military don't report. they experience reprisals that are, in many ways, a second betrayal that's even worse than
tonight begins a weeklong focus on guns here on pbs, "after newtown." on the newshour this evening, we look at political and other developments since the december tragedy and zero in on the gun debate in colorado. >> in the divisive atmosphere of the gun debate, both sides, at the federal and state level, say they know the coming months won't be easy. but they will be critical. >> ifill: then, we take up the arguments for and against the proposed construction of the...
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they can bring in to be part of the whole interrogation process. >> that was john brennan speaking to pbs in 2005. brennan's confirmation hearing comes as an affirmation is coming to light about the extent of the secret rendition program after the 9/11 attacks. a new report by the open society justice initiative names a least 136 individuals who were allegedly subjected to secret detention and rendition. >> the report is called, "globalizing torture: cia secret detention and extraordinary rendition." it also identifies 54 foreign governments that aided the united states in these operations. the countries include afghanistan, albania, algeria, australia, austria, -- iran, ireland, italy, saudi arabia, united arab emirates, and zimbabwe. one cannot listed is in the approve the report is making headlines there, too. for more we're joined by the report's author, amrit sing, senior legal officer at the national security and counterterrorism program at the open society justice initiative. the full name of her new report is, "globalizing torture: cia secret detention and extraordinary rendition.
they can bring in to be part of the whole interrogation process. >> that was john brennan speaking to pbs in 2005. brennan's confirmation hearing comes as an affirmation is coming to light about the extent of the secret rendition program after the 9/11 attacks. a new report by the open society justice initiative names a least 136 individuals who were allegedly subjected to secret detention and rendition. >> the report is called, "globalizing torture: cia secret detention and...
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it served as the basis for the recent pbs documentary series. i'm not sure the director. a whole section in the book, not very long, but the myth of joe kennedy actually being involved in smuggling. he did make money and credit the in the probation. statistically speaking he was more of a speculator and a smuggler. but somehow the, it is interesting. there is this sort of taken for granted mythology that made this money bootlegging. no. the real -- the real profits years in this particular story word the brosnan is from canada who got seagram's. and then some of the family members actually founded the center for european studies at harvard and funded many totally respectable legitimate institutions in canada. they got there start through prohibition. they post, sometimes aggressively competitors aside. so they had this question of origins and complete lead not legit after prohibition. so actually a much bigger story than almost any alcohol smuggling family that we can point to. >> the california wine industry also got a huge boost from probation. it would send out warning
it served as the basis for the recent pbs documentary series. i'm not sure the director. a whole section in the book, not very long, but the myth of joe kennedy actually being involved in smuggling. he did make money and credit the in the probation. statistically speaking he was more of a speculator and a smuggler. but somehow the, it is interesting. there is this sort of taken for granted mythology that made this money bootlegging. no. the real -- the real profits years in this particular...
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about prohibition is by someone named daniel -- [inaudible] and it served as the basis for the recent pbs documentary series. earl morris, i think, was the director, i'm not sure, on the prohibition era. he devotes a whole last section of the book, not very long, but the myth of joe kennedy actually being involved in smuggling. he did make money off of alcohol right at the end of prohibition, but technically speaking he was more of a speculator than a smuggler. but somehow, it's interesting, there is this sort of taken for granted mythology that a made the this money bootlegging. no -- >> irish. >> no, the real profiteers in this particular story, um, were the bronsons from canada who bought seagrams and some of the fam family funded respectful institutions in canada. they got their start through prohibition and pushed sometimes aggressively competitors aside. so they had this questionable origins and completely went legit. >> interesting. the california wine industry also got a huge boost from prohibition. they would set out casks with warning labels which said warning after six months,
about prohibition is by someone named daniel -- [inaudible] and it served as the basis for the recent pbs documentary series. earl morris, i think, was the director, i'm not sure, on the prohibition era. he devotes a whole last section of the book, not very long, but the myth of joe kennedy actually being involved in smuggling. he did make money off of alcohol right at the end of prohibition, but technically speaking he was more of a speculator than a smuggler. but somehow, it's interesting,...
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we're talking about the document, the amazing documentary that will air on pbs called "makers" that you were both involved in making. and also the prattling on about day care. and everything from the labor movement, there's a transcendent sublime energy and dynamism. there's these shots at taking the streets in a big march and the confrontation hearings and things like that. and then if a movement is successful, it has to sort of institutionalize itself, right? you get boards of directors and you file. i'm curious, marlo, how you as a life-language activist, think about maintaining that energy, maintaining that sense of intense dynamic consciousness over a period of time? >> well, a lot of it is through legislation. one of the wonderful things about this country, the heart of the land does follow the law of the land. we don't even make jokes about minorities and women anymore because we passed laws that have made us feel differently about things. i think -- when i saw ruth bader ginsburg and sandra day o'connor talking about on the "makers" special about the laws. to me, that's an excit
we're talking about the document, the amazing documentary that will air on pbs called "makers" that you were both involved in making. and also the prattling on about day care. and everything from the labor movement, there's a transcendent sublime energy and dynamism. there's these shots at taking the streets in a big march and the confrontation hearings and things like that. and then if a movement is successful, it has to sort of institutionalize itself, right? you get boards of...
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it will air on 320 pbs stations the first lady will spent the next week traveling to highlight the progress the program has made in the last three years. house democrats are working to keep at attention on republicans refusal to work with the president to stop with the sequester. the dccc is lawn -- launching an ad today talking about what will have. the online video targets tea party republicans in 27 congressional districts. house republicans are intent on moving ahead with their legislative agenda just assuming the sequester will happen, and the spending cuts will stay in place through the end of the year. we'll be back with more show after the break. we'll see you on the other side. stay with us. ♪ going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that
it will air on 320 pbs stations the first lady will spent the next week traveling to highlight the progress the program has made in the last three years. house democrats are working to keep at attention on republicans refusal to work with the president to stop with the sequester. the dccc is lawn -- launching an ad today talking about what will have. the online video targets tea party republicans in 27 congressional districts. house republicans are intent on moving ahead with their legislative...
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it would have been nice if they did for some of the passengers pb but the question for a lot of people, if you've got 4,000 people trapped on a ship, at what point do you let them off if they want to get off? is there a habeas corpus here is that the call in the military? >> but i mean, from other people we've heard, too, that that is a pretty difficult undertaking to get them off. >> you're left liable as a company if you ensure their safety and keep them on the ship than trying something tricky at sea. >> you have 4,000 on the ship, why do you want 4001? he's just going to be in line for the bathroom. >> it's a technical position. it's how you deal with the technical position. >> and the offshoring of the authorization, the fact that it is a few market in the minute, the fact that it is a flag carrier in the bahamas complicates it. because you did offshore wpp's market for a while, didn't you? >> if ireland is offshore, simon, yes. we're back in the uk now. >> where are you now? did you unshore wpp? >> we're in the uk. >> quit pulling my leg, simon. >> we will take this a little furt
it would have been nice if they did for some of the passengers pb but the question for a lot of people, if you've got 4,000 people trapped on a ship, at what point do you let them off if they want to get off? is there a habeas corpus here is that the call in the military? >> but i mean, from other people we've heard, too, that that is a pretty difficult undertaking to get them off. >> you're left liable as a company if you ensure their safety and keep them on the ship than trying...